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Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I thought this might be interesting.
I wish you could post more than 1 poll at a time on the thread..basically, I was curious as to your salary (just yours - not your SO's included) and if you wouldn't mind it being able to be publicly accessed for all to see.
You can submit your answer into the poll and then, if you wish, state a simple reply on if you wouldn't mind your salary being public or not (whether its paid for through tax dollars or not).
For the record, I will admit: I would not want *my* salary made public..I wouldn't want it made public even if the public was funding it....no way jose!
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Posted 11/13/10 8:42 PM |
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I voted and honestly I'm not ashamed about disclosing my salary because I've met people who think " oh you work as a ____, therefore you must make a lot of $$/make hardly any $$". Yet salaries vary widely if you are in the public sector or private sector.
It's just not so cut and dry- there are a lot of factors at play!
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Posted 11/13/10 8:49 PM |
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nov04libride
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I am not a public school teacher, but I am a state employee, so mine is public and available online. I don't mind.
It does cause problems in the office/organization. People at the same level make varying amounts based on a lot of factors, but it's always an issue over who makes more/why, etc.
There was a lot of talk about education on the teacher thread--I have a doctorate (not required for my position), and was not given a salary increase because of the degree. I was given increased based on various degrees of sh!t piled on top of my normal duties.
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Posted 11/13/10 8:53 PM |
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ChrisDee
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I could care less if people know what I make. What is the big secret? I do feel that if your salary is being paid with public money/tax money then the public has the right to know who is making what.
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Posted 11/13/10 8:58 PM |
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MrsSchwags
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I am a teacher so the salary is public.
However, when people know how much you make they make assumptions so its like oh well so and so makes this much so can't they afford it...
It should be private information.
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Posted 11/13/10 9:06 PM |
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sarahbelle
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
My salary is public because I am a NYC teacher, but it's really incomplete information. The listings do not show years of experience, education or how many hours of per session a teacher may work in a year.
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Posted 11/13/10 9:35 PM |
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OStewarts
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I am a federal employee and mine is public. You can search by my name and see my salary and bonus history.
I am fine with it.
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Posted 11/13/10 9:52 PM |
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CathyB
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I'm a SAHM so I won't answer the poll since you don't want household income. But when I was working I wouldn't have wanted my exact salary posted, regardless of if I worked for a public or private organization. One company I worked for classified everyone into different band levels and it was posted which band I was in and what the salary range for the band was. I was comfortable with that.
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Posted 11/13/10 10:09 PM |
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jerseychick
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
My salary is public info. It doesn't bother me.
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Posted 11/13/10 10:12 PM |
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CunningOne
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I'm an licensed engineer and I work for a private company. I've been in my field for more than 15 years and I make decent money (although only PT now). My salary is not public and I would not want it as such. However, if I am working on a government job, I am categorized and my salary is then public.
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Posted 11/13/10 10:16 PM |
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Goldi0218
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I teach for a private agency - my salary is not public
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Posted 11/13/10 10:34 PM |
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DancinBarefoot
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I work for a private not-for-profit agency. As a result my current salary is @ $25K LOWER than someone in the true private sector. There are lots of times I wish my salary was public so people would realize how little I actually get paid.
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Posted 11/13/10 10:50 PM |
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cinnabon
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I made 55K( I will be a sahm in dec) DH is suffolk cop, his salary is public knowledge. I think it's a shame that ppl are force to show their salary :(
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Posted 11/14/10 12:05 AM |
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Bearcat
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
i don't care if ppl know my salary. BUT i know if salaries were public knowledge in my law firm... oh the drama. people get very testy about who makes what and who got a bonus and who didn't get a raise. i could only imagine what would ensue.
as i just found out, my dh's salary is on the seethroughny site. i mean i knew cops salaries were public knowledge, i guess i just didn't realize it would say his name too.
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Posted 11/14/10 12:30 AM |
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jasmine
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
my salary is pretty much public knowledge for those who know where to look. doesnt bother me a ton, it is what it is!
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Posted 11/14/10 12:46 AM |
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
Posted by sarahbelle
My salary is public because I am a NYC teacher, but it's really incomplete information. The listings do not show years of experience, education or how many hours of per session a teacher may work in a year.
This is why the posting of salaries annoys me- I get why it's done, but it's easy to look and think a person makes a lot or is overpaid. If it's going to be there, it should be complete- the person's years of experience, level of education, overtime, etc.
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Posted 11/14/10 7:16 AM |
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DiamondGirl
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I work for the DOE. My salary is public but it is not accurate for some reason. I make more then it says I do.
I don't care if people check it. Whatever, if you need to know what I make THAT badly go right ahead
DH's salary is not public so it would not give you a real picture anyway.
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Posted 11/14/10 10:06 AM |
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MommaBear
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
Posted by DiamondGirl
I work for the DOE. My salary is public but it is not accurate for some reason. I make more then it says I do.
I don't care if people check it. Whatever, if you need to know what I make THAT badly go right ahead
DH's salary is not public so it would not give you a real picture anyway.
Me too. I do a lot of coverages and I usually work after school and that's where a lot of my extra money comes from!
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Posted 11/14/10 10:10 AM |
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Erica
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
With teachers/public employees - it's usually scheduled based, so there aren't yearly "negotiations" where knowing other salaries would be problematic - as in the private sector.
Especially with what happened in Bell, CA, I am not offended about having my salary public. I can't imagine how many years, that town was getting away with those corrupt salaries.
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Posted 11/14/10 10:43 AM |
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Blu-ize
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I would not want my salary to be public.
I am paid well for my title...but there are circumstances that allow my pay to be higher than others in the same job. I could see others having an issue with it.
I am not an officer of my firm but I know I make more than some of them.
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Posted 11/14/10 10:50 AM |
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MrsPowers
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by sarahbelle
My salary is public because I am a NYC teacher, but it's really incomplete information. The listings do not show years of experience, education or how many hours of per session a teacher may work in a year.
This is why the posting of salaries annoys me- I get why it's done, but it's easy to look and think a person makes a lot or is overpaid. If it's going to be there, it should be complete- the person's years of experience, level of education, overtime, etc.
I agree with this. The public sees a figure but it doesn't state how many years of experience or how much educations one has.
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Posted 11/14/10 10:53 AM |
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nov04libride
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
Posted by Erica
With teachers/public employees - it's usually scheduled based, so there aren't yearly "negotiations" where knowing other salaries would be problematic - as in the private sector.
Especially with what happened in Bell, CA, I am not offended about having my salary public. I can't imagine how many years, that town was getting away with those corrupt salaries.
In my state union, we have negotiated merit increases. The head of the area is given 1% of the total salaries to distribute as she sees fit. Some people get nothing, while others get thousands. My boss used the public salaries to graph how he feels that men are underpaid compared to women (reverse gender discrimination), and created a Power Point and graph showing each woman at his level compared to the men. It's just stupid; everyone's job and background are different, and it just makes it too easy to look at it all as black and white.
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Posted 11/14/10 12:35 PM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
As a federal employee, my salary IS public information: approximately $105,000.
I'm an attorney with the U.S. Dept of Ed, with 6 years of legal experience, and another 5 years experience in HR. Not bad for federal service, but if I worked at a firm it would be double, if not triple that...
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Posted 11/14/10 12:49 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
I work in the private sector so my salary isn't published to the public. Some companies do have grade levels & everyone knows the range of what staff make. Would I mind? If it was a company policy, then I'd accept it. If I wanted to private, I'd find a company that didn't make it public.
If I worked in the public sector, than yes I think it should be public knowledge. As I said in the other thread, it's a matter of checks & balances with public employees (thinking along the lines of politicians, nepotism, etc).
Just as teachers said for those that complain about the benefits for being a teacher, become a teacher if you want the same - I say if you're a public employee & don't want your salary published, go into the private sector then.
Also my assumption is the higher paid public employees have more experience, more education, have a higher level job or work OT - all of which warrants higher pay in my opinion.
I should also say - as someone in HR, I have everyone's salary info in my division - if they were made public, there would certainly be sniping over it. From experience, low-performing employees never see that they are low-performing & not contributing as the higher performers do.
Message edited 11/14/2010 12:57:47 PM.
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Posted 11/14/10 12:53 PM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Public Aware of Salary - Teachers -----> Spinoff Thread
Posted by nrthshgrl If I worked in the public sector, than yes I think it should be public knowledge. As I said in the other thread, it's a matter of checks & balances with public employees (thinking along the lines of politicians, nepotism, etc).
I completely agree - I take no issue with the publication of my salary because it is an expectation with my job. I FIRMLY believe that if your salaried is paid for through public taxes, then there should to total transparency regarding how those taxes are allocated. It's only fair, and I agree, if you have an issue with it, then take a job in the private sector.
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Posted 11/14/10 12:58 PM |
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